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How to Build Your List the Way No One Else Does It

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Sometimes being different can work in your favor..

Most bloggers (and marketers with blogs) who use list building as a way to interact with their audience use the same approach.

Stop me if you’ve heard this before:

  • Create an opt-in form;
  • Give away a bonus (like a free e-book to show how crazy cool and knowledgeable you are);
  • Place it somewhere on your website.

That is traditional email marketing 101 for bloggers.

Now there is nothing wrong with this strategy to list building.

The masses do it. It is the rudimentary approach to list building.

And if you haven’t built a list before, then you really should know the fundamentals of how to build an email list (as a music professor in college once told me, you have to know the rules before you start to break them).

That said, it’s “safe.”

It’s what everyone else does.

Are you feeling a little…..Dangerous?

What if I told you that you could build a more responsive list without having to give anything away at all?

This article is going to focus on a totally underused marketing concept that is usually reserved for ad copy, in which the majority of your subscribers will actually open up your emails, read them and even (*agast*) buy stuff from you from time to time.

The are 4 concepts that I use in tandem, but you can take what you like and use them separately.

  1. The leading and alluding strategy.
  2. Creating scarcity to influence sign-ups.
  3. Setting Expectations up in your welcome letter.
  4. Expanding your list through exclusivity.

There are a couple caveats to this approach though:

  1. You need to know what you are talking about.
  2. You need to already have an audience on your website.

Are you ready?

Why Traditional List Building Doesn’t Work

The problem with most opt-in forms on websites is that they don’t convert super well.

In fact, a lot of times, they just take up space.

We are talking single digit % low. In some cases, it could be less than 1%.

The reason for this is that traditional blogs have tons of link leakage on the page, so the visitor has a ton of choices to go somewhere else.

The problem with giving things away for free is that you wind up with a group of unqualified leads (because technically, that’s what a subscriber is) who are only signing up for the freebie.

This will ultimately lower your Email Open Rates.

A couple years ago, on my vanity website, leodimilo.com, I started experimenting with list building approaches.

The problem was I didn’t want to build a list by giving something away, so I used a very simple sign-up form inviting visitors to subscribe to my newsletter.

The sign-up rate was abysmal, although those who signed up were responsive (once again, because they actively chose to sign up without the proverbial carrot.)

So, my question was how do I get more sign-ups to my newsletter that are just as responsive as the ones who sign up for no other reason than because they want to get more information from me?

Make the opportunity to sign up SCARCE

Scarcity is a tactic that ad copy uses.

The idea is to limit the amount of things available to create a sensation that if you don’t move this very minute, you may lose the opportunity.

It is kind of like a push. A call-to-action.

Scarcity can be a form of a call-to-action like those late night infomercials you see on TV that tell you that there are only so many available.

First Step: Seeding the List by Leading and Alluding

Now, you can’t do this without having a plan in action to get it done.

There are elements of conditioning involved to get the most subscribers for your money.

The leading and alluding strategy can condition your visitors to start to think about what they are missing.

The first thing I did was create a series of posts, in which I summarized something and alluded to the fact that I went over it in a past newsletter.

Then I would place the form directly into the post right before the comments.

The purpose of the posts wasn’t necessarily to increase my list size (although it did).

It was to plant the seed (i.e. condition) that I was giving away better stuff in my newsletter (which I was).

While a sidebar opt-in form is okay, an opt-in form within a post combined with alluding that more could’ve been learned had the visitor been a subscriber is pretty powerful.

Next Step: Place your list on lockdown

So, after about a month, I was getting subscribers by leading my visitors, but it was at this point that I wanted to grab any of those fence sitters.

I put out a post that announced that I was going to close off the membership and anyone who was interested would need to go ahead and sign up.

There was no ad copy. No overt promotion. Just a sign up form and a paragraph that basically said sign up if you want…don’t do it if you don’t want.

In a period of 3 days, I signed up 174 more people. Then I locked down the membership.

Optional: Set Rules in Your Welcome Letter

Most list marketers are just tickled pink when someone new subscribes.

They are almost always willing to bend over backwards thanking the person for signing up.

I go the other way and put a couple rules in my welcome letter.

Call me old and crotchety. (I have been doing this for a little over a decade now)

In my welcome letter, I tell them what they can expect from me (which is a good practice, by the way).

I also put what I expect from them.

The rule is simple.

Open up my friggin’ emails occasionally or I will simply remove them from my list.

Sound drastic? Not really.

As an internet marketer, unopened emails are wasted chances of engagement. Besides, if I am going to spend hours crafting a newsletter, the least I could expect would be for my subscribers to occasionally show interest.

Final Step: Increase the size of your list by one of two ways

Now, I have mentioned that you need to know what you are talking about.

You also need to be somewhat entertaining as well.

If you don’t give good information, your responsive list will go away. I can’t reiterate that enough.

Exclusivity will only take you so far and I can only talk about these things as how they worked for me, personally.

So, I locked the newsletter down and started sending them emails once every other week.

I won’t go into marketing strategies as far as how I marketed to them, but let’s just say that from the view of open and click-through rates, people on my list were interested.

For the first year, once a month, I would send out an invitation to my subscribers.

The invitation would allow them to suggest my newsletter to people they trusted and thought would benefit from subscribing. As always, I gave a time frame in which this was valid.

…and although it wasn’t a windfall of subscribers, those who joined appreciated the fact that they were on the “list”.

The fact that their friends suggested it kept my newsletter open rates high.

How high?

Last year’s open rates for my newsletter (which had roughly 600 subscribers) hung in the 60 percentile. The click-through rates were a little better than 50%.

Anyone who has done email marketing knows that those numbers are incredible.

Now 600 may not sound like a lot of people, but consider this.

In the marketing niche, the average open rates hover at just under 20%.

Using that as a metric, it would take the average internet marketer to build a list 3 times as large to get the same open rates.

The lesson is that you can do more with less provided that the response rate is good.

Think about that.

Another option to build a subscriber base

If relying on your subscribers for new sign-ups makes you a bit nervous, another option is to open your list to new sign-ups once a month in a post. This will still build scarcity into your list building efforts.

Do it over a 3 day weekend or plan a link building campaign at the same time and watch your list grow very quickly.

I did this earlier this month (4th of July weekend) and experienced 200 new subscribers in a period of 3 days.

Then (of course), I closed it.

Marketing Takeaway

And there you have it.

A totally unconventional approach to building a responsive list without having to give anything away.

You may not build that 100,000 member list, but who needs that when those who are on your list actually look forward to your emails and are responsive?

Are you feeling a little dangerous?\

Let me know in the comments!

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{ 42 comments }

Mike Cleveland December 3, 2012 at 3:37 pm

This goes against the norm, but this is the best way to get people on your list. I agree that this method might place you over a cliff, but why are people associating themselves with you in the first place?

When we hold out a carrot and say I give you this gift for your email address, it is hard to judge the motives of those signing up to a newsletter.

And carrots they get, but very responsive list you don’t have.

Ana Hoffman December 4, 2012 at 8:11 pm

Very true, Mike, yet I’ve never tested the strategy myself. Seems to be too “non-conformist”. ;)

Jeff Faldalen October 12, 2011 at 9:56 am

Hi Leo,
Great, great strategies!!! It’s not about the numbers, its about the conversions

Your Stats are off the charts. I will certainly be implementing your ideas

Thank you for your contribution,
Jeff Faldalen

Dan August 20, 2011 at 6:17 pm

Your open and click through rates are outstanding….guess I should pay close attention to your advice.

Chris@how to build your list August 9, 2011 at 1:53 am

I absolutely love this concept, it does go against the grain somewhat, but hey I like to live a little dangerously as well…
Far to many marketers rely on pure numbers to monetize their lists, whereas a more quality over quantity approach would reap greater benefits in the long run, as you have shown with your open rate percentages.
Excellent article Leo.

Ana August 9, 2011 at 10:36 am

Absolutely. That’s why I like to do it this way.

Leo Dimilo August 9, 2011 at 10:49 am

Thanks Chris,

People get so enamored by numbers. The real question that should be addressed though is engagement. You can do a lot with a small list if the list is engaged.

Chris August 9, 2011 at 1:03 pm

Hi Ana, Leo,

This is true, if more people concentrated on the relationship they have with their list, they would have a lot more productive email campaign.

Erin August 8, 2011 at 9:30 am

Wow, I’ve never heard of this strategy before… it’s very interesting! I really like how you tell your subscribers what they have to do and what you expect from them… brilliant idea!

Thanks for this awesome post,
Erin

Jamal August 4, 2011 at 7:12 pm

These are the practical steps that are necessary to be pioneer in marketing. You have designed steps very professionally.

Natasha August 1, 2011 at 11:56 am

Leo -

Building a list without having to give anything away? That might have sounded crazy to me before reading this post, but the way you lay out the steps toward doing so sounds like it will totally work like a charm! Thanks for the advice, I plan on executing it asap. :)

Natasha

Sam July 31, 2011 at 1:39 pm

Classic sales technique, the takeaway. It’s an interesting idea and one I haven’t seen used too often and I like it. In the end it’s really sales and with sales it’s a numbers game, but doing certain things can increase numbers and doing something poorly can decrease those numbers.

Ana August 1, 2011 at 4:39 am

Exactly. Thanks Sam. :-)

Argie Monroy July 31, 2011 at 8:24 am

I guess it doesnt really matter as to how many you have in your list. A few yet active individuals is much beneficial than several unresponsive ones. Look at that difference. Numbers dont actually count that much - interaction does.

Betty Asphy July 31, 2011 at 2:53 am

These are great tips. I love that question, “Are you feeling dangerous?” Yes, sometimes I do feel dangerous. This is a great post.

ianbelanger July 29, 2011 at 9:18 am

Hey Leo,

This is an interesting strategy to list building. It makes sense to me though. Scarcity is an excellent marketing technique. It makes people feel special to be a part of your list and I am sure the interaction will be alot better using this technique, as your numbers show.

They key is definitely having a group of blog followers already. I do not believe that a newbie should try this, but for us experienced bloggers this could be very powerful.

Let’s face it, it’s not the size of the list, it’s the click-through or open rates that make the list.

Thanks for sharing this Leo and have a great day!

Josh July 28, 2011 at 6:34 pm

Great list building tips, Leo. This is one area in which I am sadly lacking in knowledge and skills, and this post will surely help me.

Allison July 28, 2011 at 8:40 am

Awesome!!! I like the think with scarcity :x Thanks for the good tip :)

Henrik Sandberg July 28, 2011 at 3:25 am

Great ide to tell them to open .. or you kick them out :)

Also to ask supscribers to send it to a friend have have a limited time open for subscriping..

Always good with inspiration - thx

Henrik

Leo Dimilo July 28, 2011 at 7:42 am

Thanks Henrik,

It works but you have to have that much value, which can be tough. But as bloggers, entrepreneurs and marketers, we should want to be leaders in our markets.

Mark July 28, 2011 at 3:22 am

I like the idea of not using a free giveaway to “tempt” op-tins.

I have built lists before like this and they never convert.

Basically, what you end up with is a huge list of “tire kickers” that are just simply looking for “freebies”.

Very interesting plan, Leo. I really like the idea of adding an opt-in form to a post directly.

Thanks for the idea…:)

Mark

Leo Dimilo July 28, 2011 at 7:48 am

Hey Mark,

Yeah, I was down that road several years ago. Built a huge list and found the ROI was not that great and worse still, the engagement absolutely sucked. So, I started testing giving nothing away which means that you have to look at your call-to-action differently. Experimented with a variety of ways to get people willing to take a chance on me.

The funny thing is, is once people get on your list, and once they figure out you aren’t trying to constantly pitch them, they wind up freely referring you to their friends (provided they have a network).

The hard part is getting the ball rolling.

Jane July 27, 2011 at 11:43 pm

“Are you feeling a little dangerous?” - you ask. I’d say yes, especially when you open and close sign ups. I understand that even though you only allow a little time window for people to sign up, that is pressing and promising without a freebie.

Apart from that, being different always works. And I love your tips :) Thanks.

Ana July 28, 2011 at 7:51 am

Well, here’s to living dangerously!!! :D

Leo Dimilo July 28, 2011 at 9:01 am

Hey Jane,

I appreciate it.

Eugene @ Internet Success July 27, 2011 at 6:37 pm

Always a good idea to go against the grain and try something new. If nothing else it has the potential of catching the reader’s attention and intriguing them.

But scarcity is a HUGE selling point. I’m ashamed to admit I don’t use it.

Leo Dimilo July 28, 2011 at 7:50 am

My life has been going against the grain…sometimes in my favor and sometimes to my detriment. Scarcity certainly moves people, Eugene. There are other less pushy triggers you can use as well but there is a feeling of exclusivity when you go private.

Justin | Mazzastick July 27, 2011 at 1:01 pm

Hi Leo, Never thought of any of these approaches before. You have given me some juicy ideas that I can start implementing today.

Michael @Blast4Traffic July 27, 2011 at 12:33 pm

This is an entirely new technique for building a responsive email list.
I have been experimenting lately on
one list building method that is out of the radar and the results are
great.

Will share with you later.
Thanks for sharing

Ken Nadreau July 27, 2011 at 9:03 am

Pedro,

All good ideas! Thanks :)

I’m thinking about offering choices to my subscribers, like giving them 3 list options to pick from with the one sign up. Of course they’d each be time limited, and I could stagger the time left to direct them to the most urgent (the one I most want them to choose).

Do you have any thoughts on this?

Leo Dimilo July 27, 2011 at 9:09 am

Well, sometimes more choices can lead to paralysis. But you can always test it.

Ken from Advanced Market Training July 27, 2011 at 9:14 am

Yeah I agree. That’s why I’m thinking to maneuver things with the time limit so it’s not such an open choice, though it appears so at sign up. I’m concerned about it coming off as deception however, so I may not do it.

Just wanted your input, thanks :)

Leo Dimilo July 27, 2011 at 10:13 am

No problem man. Me? I would probably not give too many choices and make it scarce. You can only be deceptive if that is your true intent. For instance, saying that you are going to do something and then not doing it is pretty deceptive. But following through….that’s not deceptive.

I’ve yet to get any complaints about it.

Probably the most radical strategy is telling your list what you expect from them. It is pretty much unheard of. As marketers, we are supposed to be ecstatic when we get people signing up. Why not add a variable to the equation if what you are giving is truly valuable?

Ken Nadreau July 27, 2011 at 10:25 am

Maybe I should have used the word “sneaky” instead of deceptive :)

But I do agree, marketers need some new approaches for list building, and promotions. We’ve become too predictable.

Ken Nadreau July 27, 2011 at 10:27 am

My big questions is, where the heck did I get “Pedro” from? Sorry Leo, and thanks again :)

And thanks to you too Ana!

Leo Dimilo July 27, 2011 at 10:43 am

Pedro….Leo….I knew who you meant….

And that is half the battle, right? ;)

Predictability is a problem. Usually when everyone is doing it, it loses it effectiveness really quick. The tabbed corner with a dangling ad comes to mind. It worked when not everyone and their mother were using it. Now? Ad blindness.

Scarcity will never lose its effectiveness.

Pedro Cardoso July 27, 2011 at 7:58 am

I like how you’re enticing subscribers to join in by creating a sense of urgency and exclusivity. Those are tried-and-true psychological triggers, but to actually close off the list for added effect…. that sure is pretty bold; such approach probably only works in consultancy-related niches, but it’s still pretty ingenious!

Leo Dimilo July 27, 2011 at 8:21 am

Pedro,

It actually works in any niche or marketer that is social. Think of it this way. If you find the best coupons for digital equipment online and people can attest to it, then closing off the list only grows the need to be on the list when you reopen it.

In other words, you get new sign-ups that are engaged very quickly. The key is that they are engaged. That is the most important note to take from this.

Obviously, some niches are better than others for this.

BTW, the leading and alluding strategy works very well in blog comments, not just lead generation.

Usman July 27, 2011 at 7:47 am

Hi, Anna !

well list building is just a part of plan, and I saw many people doing it a totally different way, today some one forcefully got me signed up for his/her list by giving away a free product.

and I’m really amazed that i done it with my hand un-intentionally. but really true that traditional things don’t work well.

Regards

Leo Dimilo July 27, 2011 at 8:53 am

Usman,

If I can add a bit more to what Ana said, conventional marketing techniques still work. It is all about conveying enough interest between what you are offering and what your visitor wants to get them to be willing to give you what you want.

A lot of that is determined by your ad copy and how good you are at expressing what value you can give.

The strategies I talk about here all deal with consumer psychology. Scarcity is a powerful tool and can be used with a conventional list as well. (for instance, you could create a white paper that is only available for THAT week for free for new sign-ups. After that, you will take it down.

I could write a small book on the different ad copy strategies for list building. They really are only limited to your creativity.

TrafficColeman July 27, 2011 at 6:51 am

Building a list can work..but you only have to give them that one choice to opt-in. This is what I did to grow my list is to send them to a one page signup and it worked like a charm.

“Black Seo Guy “Signing Off”

Mike Cleveland December 3, 2012 at 3:47 pm

Hey,

You must consider your an Affiliate Marketer? Bloggers tend to shy away from this method and depend on their blogs to attract signup. But, the biggest mistake bloggers make is having too much going on per page and distracting a person from signing up to their newsletter.

Secondly, bloggers need to ask and ask again for the email address with boldness……

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